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PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:32 am

Hi, i was in the closed beta and the game was awesome.
Now i'm playing the FInal 1.02 and the game is much much worse.
Graphics are different, less particles, less glowing effects, bad palette, some special weapons effects are changed.. overall is much worse than the Beta 1.01
Gameplaywise is less fun, speed is slower, controls seems less responsive but difficulty seems too easy (default settings), there are too many credits..

PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

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Re: PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:13 am

I'm fairly sure that the changes made after the beta were more or less wanted by the participants. If effects have been tuned down, it must be because people were complaining about visibility. Speed is only slower on the easy difficulty, if you were part of an early beta you played the game on experienced so maybe try that. Overall the changes made since beta are relatively small - and at least in my opinion the game feels and behaves the same :-) Hopefully you will enjoy Nex!
It's time to squash bugs and chew bubble gum... and I'm all outta gum. :1rolleyes:

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Re: PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:18 am

Took some screens..

Enemy glow before and after:
https://s16.postimg.org/i1i81tdph/image.jpg
https://s16.postimg.org/x8y7m65k5/image.jpg

"Minigame" particles/cubes/derez effect before and after. WHY?..
https://s16.postimg.org/6qfkdg6ud/image.jpg
https://s16.postimg.org/k8rimupb9/image.jpg

Snake/Centipede/Lil'train of love, before and after. Green and red together is not so pretty isn't it?
And what about the color code? Red=Bad Green=Good.. at least that's what i believed until yesterday.
https://s16.postimg.org/3whgx4azp/image.jpg
https://s16.postimg.org/5fcv23hk5/image.jpg

Big lasers.. Subtle but different, like all the other glowing effects. We need more glowing, more particles. My big laser is going limp, guys.. :(
https://s16.postimg.org/m1ufb6ahx/image.jpg
https://s16.postimg.org/5te71p1np/image.jpg

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Re: PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:26 am

Yepe wrote:I'm fairly sure that the changes made after the beta were more or less wanted by the participants. If effects have been tuned down, it must be because people were complaining about visibility. Speed is only slower on the easy difficulty, if you were part of an early beta you played the game on experienced so maybe try that. Overall the changes made since beta are relatively small - and at least in my opinion the game feels and behaves the same :-) Hopefully you will enjoy Nex!


People is stupid, the game was extremely readable as it was before, no need to chopping down effects.
I hope the developers will revert some of the changes. Restore the glow and the minigame particle effects, at least. I truly cannot understand why the minigame effect was heavily cut, it doesnt affect gameplay at all since it happens during the level transition.

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Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:30 am

A quick explanation for the changes you mentioned:

- Enemy glow was tuned because it was too intrusive in our opinion. All enemies felt like blobs of red light and lost a bit of their identity because of that.
- Minigame particles were reduced to improve performance. It was not a problem in the earlier worlds but later in the game it caused some fps drops.
- I don't know why the visitors were changed, but I guess it's because they now fit the overall looks of the game better. Disruptors are also greenish as they give points to the players, and destroying the visitors gives the player multiplier up :-)
- Laser effects were also tuned down because it improves performance.
It's time to squash bugs and chew bubble gum... and I'm all outta gum. :1rolleyes:

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Re: PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:47 am

Performance > looks if you ask me. Also I would say difficulty is higher than in beta (PC).

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Re: PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:07 pm

Ok i understand some people complained about readability etc. but after playng a lot of the beta version i feel the graphics in the final are a bit underwelming.
But here's the solution: just put two new options in the GRAPHICS settings:
GLOW = Normal/Heavy
MINIGAME EFFECT = Normal/Heavy

Easy as that! Can the team add these simple options? Please?

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Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:16 pm

I can mention that something like this has been requested, but just to be honest don't get your hopes too high :-) I have absolutely no clue what we are going to do next.
It's time to squash bugs and chew bubble gum... and I'm all outta gum. :1rolleyes:

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Re: PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:04 pm

I am a die-hard fan of HOUSEMARQUE since the Amiga era.
I just cannot understand why lately you are literally ruining your own games. First Resogun 1.10, now this.
NEX MACHINA BETA was already very readable and there weren't any in-game performance issues.
The final version is just less pretty, less spectacular, less slick. It was an awesome game all-around and you just made it uglier. This is disappointing.
I think i'll keep the BETA on my Ps4 and play just that version every now and then. The Final is just.. meh.

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Re: PLEASE someone tell me why the BETA was so much better than the FINAL, thanks.

Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:21 pm

MaxxL wrote:I just cannot understand why lately you are literally ruining your own games. First Resogun 1.10, now this.
What happened in 1.10? I'm afraid to install the patch.

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